tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3352166344614826568.post742190720137727871..comments2024-03-14T10:07:59.760-07:00Comments on American Alpine Institute - Climbing Blog: The Figure-Eight Follow-ThroughErin-Leigh Hardyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10781785451497618508noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3352166344614826568.post-20546672275999500682011-11-16T05:13:04.577-08:002011-11-16T05:13:04.577-08:00I'm certainly not an expert, but I would think...I'm certainly not an expert, but I would think it could be a bit short sighted to discount alpine style harnesses based on any incompatibility with this particular tie off. A primary benefit of the tie off is it enables you to untie a heavily loaded knot, which should not happen all that often in alpine climbing.<br /><br />Personally I'm used to my sport climbing harness with belay loop, but it is difficult not appreciate that the alpine harnesses allow you to put on your harness easily over clothing, crampons etc and this is a significant benefit in certain situations.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3352166344614826568.post-73025218988085562482010-04-12T11:59:05.608-07:002010-04-12T11:59:05.608-07:00I would prefer to not see people clip inside the k...I would prefer to not see people clip inside the knot to use the loop as a belay. It's probably better to make a little loop with a piece of heavy cordage and tie it off with a double-fisherman's knot.<br /><br />...Or even better, get a harness with a belay loop.<br /><br />JasonAmerican Alpine Institutehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02912049031518327438noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3352166344614826568.post-54279846734197738222010-04-12T10:40:25.296-07:002010-04-12T10:40:25.296-07:00Thanks so much for this post... very helpful!
I&#...Thanks so much for this post... very helpful!<br /><br />I've had more and more climbing partners switching to some type of follow-through backup on figure 8s in the last couple of years. I've found each partner who does so to have the "right" way and everyone else's is "wrong." <br /><br />Because of that kind of inconsistency among my competent climbing partners, I've avoided the follow-through backup myself, and ask partners to double check their knots in addition to my check. <br /><br />When I have used a follow-through backup, I've tied the Figure-Eight Follow-Through with an<br />extra wrap as shown in the photo, but a majority of partners using a follow-through backup have disagreed with me about the tracing of the follow through, arguing that the follow through should travel in the opposite direction (in your photo, it's shown going clockwise around the rope; my partners have argued (for some reason I don't understand) that it should go counterclockwise around the rope in the setup you have pictured, before being tucked through the 8). <br /><br />Any thoughts on the direction of the wrap, when not using the loop as a belay loop?Sarahttp://www.rockclimbergirl.comnoreply@blogger.com